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		<title>By: Fight Back Friday March 12th &#124; Food Renegade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fight Back Friday March 12th &#124; Food Renegade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 01:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Kitchen (Homemade Chicken Stock)20. Dr. Ayala (Misleading health claims finally under fire)21. Katy@ThoughtForFood (Fighting the Food Pyramid)22. Shelley @ Authentic Homemade/MAHM (Food safety act s510, again)23. Steve @ Flicker&#8217;s Lair [...]</description>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
		<link>http://katymcarter.com/2010/03/damage-control/comment-page-1/#comment-387</link>
		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 03:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ha ha ha
inDEED

I think you&#039;re right in that if our kids learn to understand food, they probably won&#039;t veer too far from a good course (pun intended). It&#039;s probably a lot like learning to love learning ...

But I also think that some of our kids may never catch the desire to understand food. And they will eat Cheetos on occasion, and (horror of horrors, seriously, it scares me to death) they will worry about their weight and go on a Slimfast diet. And we&#039;re gonna have to be OK with that. Or at least not let them know that they&#039;ve committed the unpardonable sin.

I think it&#039;s funny that what I&#039;m most concerned about right now is not healthy eating habits, but my son&#039;s play-acting about guns. Everything becomes a gun. And according to him, the gun (or cannon, or rocket launcher) smashes and breaks things (and people) into pieces. And this horrifies me deep down in my gut. I feel completely out of control, like, how did I let this happen? What am I doing wrong? Where is he getting this? This is not my beautiful son. Damage control, inDEED.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ha ha ha<br />
inDEED</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re right in that if our kids learn to understand food, they probably won&#8217;t veer too far from a good course (pun intended). It&#8217;s probably a lot like learning to love learning &#8230;</p>
<p>But I also think that some of our kids may never catch the desire to understand food. And they will eat Cheetos on occasion, and (horror of horrors, seriously, it scares me to death) they will worry about their weight and go on a Slimfast diet. And we&#8217;re gonna have to be OK with that. Or at least not let them know that they&#8217;ve committed the unpardonable sin.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s funny that what I&#8217;m most concerned about right now is not healthy eating habits, but my son&#8217;s play-acting about guns. Everything becomes a gun. And according to him, the gun (or cannon, or rocket launcher) smashes and breaks things (and people) into pieces. And this horrifies me deep down in my gut. I feel completely out of control, like, how did I let this happen? What am I doing wrong? Where is he getting this? This is not my beautiful son. Damage control, inDEED.</p>
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		<title>By: katy</title>
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		<dc:creator>katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CK, I see your point. &#039;Tis true, that our children will eventually listen to their friends more than (gasp) us. But I&#039;m wondering -- if they really &lt;i&gt;understand&lt;/i&gt; food, from eating and conversations and being part of decisions -- won&#039;t it be hard to turn away? I mean, did you and your brother turn away from the words &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; example of really healthy food (you know, between your mom&#039;s smoke breaks? teehee)?

If anything, I could see my kids turning to vegetarianism. But take a hard left, and head down the road of total junk food and sugar? I don&#039;t know, maybe. That would be the perfect setup, though, for me becoming the Meddling Mom from Hell.

And, C, you know -- you, too, are free to eat bacon ; )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CK, I see your point. &#8216;Tis true, that our children will eventually listen to their friends more than (gasp) us. But I&#8217;m wondering &#8212; if they really <i>understand</i> food, from eating and conversations and being part of decisions &#8212; won&#8217;t it be hard to turn away? I mean, did you and your brother turn away from the words <i>and</i> example of really healthy food (you know, between your mom&#8217;s smoke breaks? teehee)?</p>
<p>If anything, I could see my kids turning to vegetarianism. But take a hard left, and head down the road of total junk food and sugar? I don&#8217;t know, maybe. That would be the perfect setup, though, for me becoming the Meddling Mom from Hell.</p>
<p>And, C, you know &#8212; you, too, are free to eat bacon ; )</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
		<link>http://katymcarter.com/2010/03/damage-control/comment-page-1/#comment-381</link>
		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also! I love that you say &quot;Right now, I just want her to feel free to eat bacon.&quot; Exactly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also! I love that you say &#8220;Right now, I just want her to feel free to eat bacon.&#8221; Exactly.</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
		<link>http://katymcarter.com/2010/03/damage-control/comment-page-1/#comment-380</link>
		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also wanted to say — but got interrupted by a hungry 6-month-old — I&#039;m not at all sure that parental guidance has as strong an impact as we might like to think on how our children eat. I mean, obviously we have a lot of control over it while they&#039;re kids, but will they continue to make healthy decisions as they grow older? Are we instilling lifelong eating habits? I don&#039;t know. The evidence points to the contrary. I became a vegetarian much to my parents&#039; chagrin. But then, my little brother lives off of processed sugar and fast food, and they didn&#039;t want that, either. Two extremes, born out of the same family.

I think that our peers have more influence over our eating habits than we&#039;d like to admit. But maybe there&#039;s still hope. With the growing awareness about the food industry, and the widespread push to eat more local/organic/seasonal, maybe our kids will have more opportunity/desire to eat in a healthy way. It&#039;s obvious that young adults are a lot more conscious about it now than my generation was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also wanted to say — but got interrupted by a hungry 6-month-old — I&#8217;m not at all sure that parental guidance has as strong an impact as we might like to think on how our children eat. I mean, obviously we have a lot of control over it while they&#8217;re kids, but will they continue to make healthy decisions as they grow older? Are we instilling lifelong eating habits? I don&#8217;t know. The evidence points to the contrary. I became a vegetarian much to my parents&#8217; chagrin. But then, my little brother lives off of processed sugar and fast food, and they didn&#8217;t want that, either. Two extremes, born out of the same family.</p>
<p>I think that our peers have more influence over our eating habits than we&#8217;d like to admit. But maybe there&#8217;s still hope. With the growing awareness about the food industry, and the widespread push to eat more local/organic/seasonal, maybe our kids will have more opportunity/desire to eat in a healthy way. It&#8217;s obvious that young adults are a lot more conscious about it now than my generation was.</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
		<link>http://katymcarter.com/2010/03/damage-control/comment-page-1/#comment-376</link>
		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Katy. It chills me to the bone. Waits isn&#039;t quite there yet, although he is just beginning to vocalize the difference between healthy and unhealthy (but, like your little man, he won&#039;t often touch green foods). I love our little hippie preschool, where the kids help prepare homemade barley soup and processed snacks and lunches are verboten. He came home one day declaring that he LOVED broccoli, and I was all: WHOO the power of positive peer pressure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Katy. It chills me to the bone. Waits isn&#8217;t quite there yet, although he is just beginning to vocalize the difference between healthy and unhealthy (but, like your little man, he won&#8217;t often touch green foods). I love our little hippie preschool, where the kids help prepare homemade barley soup and processed snacks and lunches are verboten. He came home one day declaring that he LOVED broccoli, and I was all: WHOO the power of positive peer pressure!</p>
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		<title>By: S. Walker</title>
		<link>http://katymcarter.com/2010/03/damage-control/comment-page-1/#comment-373</link>
		<dc:creator>S. Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a parent&#039;s repetition is key.  My first grader recently balked at eating the fat on the edge of a pork chop.  I explained that our bodies need fat for certain functions and that eating fat does not make a person fat.  I took the opportunity to reiterate that over consumption and lack of exercise are the largest contributors to unhealthy weight gain.  I also reemphasized the importance of healthy snacks and how he should avoid junk food.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a parent&#8217;s repetition is key.  My first grader recently balked at eating the fat on the edge of a pork chop.  I explained that our bodies need fat for certain functions and that eating fat does not make a person fat.  I took the opportunity to reiterate that over consumption and lack of exercise are the largest contributors to unhealthy weight gain.  I also reemphasized the importance of healthy snacks and how he should avoid junk food.</p>
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		<title>By: katy</title>
		<link>http://katymcarter.com/2010/03/damage-control/comment-page-1/#comment-372</link>
		<dc:creator>katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chanelle, I&#039;ve had lots of similar conversations -- and the thing is, the first time you hear it, it &lt;i&gt;does&lt;/i&gt; sound crazy! -- a product of our generation&#039;s upbringing on food. And Angelina, you are so right about the bacon -- it&#039;s important for me to stress with my daughter &lt;i&gt;why&lt;/i&gt; the bacon we eat is ok to use in moderation (we don&#039;t cure our own, unfortunately, so we purchase uncured to avoid corn-based processes).

The more I think about it, I realize I&#039;m more upset about all these school kids being taught the pyramid (more so than being worried about my own kid -- this, I know, we can counter at home, even if it&#039;s hard). As a person who grew up knowing absolutely nothing about food, it was hard to un-learn all those &quot;facts&quot; that were, in fact, wrong. Nutrition science is so steeped in trends that end up being &quot;wrong&quot; -- think margarine, fat-free, aspartame, etc. -- I just wish there was a way to teach more tradition-based nutrition in schools without it seeming completely irrelevant (i.e., when a kid is making his own dinner at age 8, does grass-fed beef really matter? probably not -- but what true nutrition information would stick with him and help inform his choices?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chanelle, I&#8217;ve had lots of similar conversations &#8212; and the thing is, the first time you hear it, it <i>does</i> sound crazy! &#8212; a product of our generation&#8217;s upbringing on food. And Angelina, you are so right about the bacon &#8212; it&#8217;s important for me to stress with my daughter <i>why</i> the bacon we eat is ok to use in moderation (we don&#8217;t cure our own, unfortunately, so we purchase uncured to avoid corn-based processes).</p>
<p>The more I think about it, I realize I&#8217;m more upset about all these school kids being taught the pyramid (more so than being worried about my own kid &#8212; this, I know, we can counter at home, even if it&#8217;s hard). As a person who grew up knowing absolutely nothing about food, it was hard to un-learn all those &#8220;facts&#8221; that were, in fact, wrong. Nutrition science is so steeped in trends that end up being &#8220;wrong&#8221; &#8212; think margarine, fat-free, aspartame, etc. &#8212; I just wish there was a way to teach more tradition-based nutrition in schools without it seeming completely irrelevant (i.e., when a kid is making his own dinner at age 8, does grass-fed beef really matter? probably not &#8212; but what true nutrition information would stick with him and help inform his choices?).</p>
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		<title>By: angelina</title>
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		<dc:creator>angelina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s important to keep in mind that the bacon that most people eat is not necessarily that healthy- I believe that a lot of grocery store bacon is treated with some chemicals in the curing process.  I myself am a vegetarian and so don&#039;t claim to be an expert at all- but I have a lot of friends who, like you, eat really high quality food (some of them even cure their own bacon!) and I think that when you&#039;re getting really high quality meat you&#039;re talking about a different thing altogether.  

I talk a lot about food with my son and even though he doesn&#039;t seem that interested most of the time I inevitably hear him repeat some of the things I&#039;ve taught him to friends or other people.  

I really do think kids listen to their parents more than they do to things they learn at school.  Just keep teaching her what you know about healthy eating and I think it&#039;ll get through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s important to keep in mind that the bacon that most people eat is not necessarily that healthy- I believe that a lot of grocery store bacon is treated with some chemicals in the curing process.  I myself am a vegetarian and so don&#8217;t claim to be an expert at all- but I have a lot of friends who, like you, eat really high quality food (some of them even cure their own bacon!) and I think that when you&#8217;re getting really high quality meat you&#8217;re talking about a different thing altogether.  </p>
<p>I talk a lot about food with my son and even though he doesn&#8217;t seem that interested most of the time I inevitably hear him repeat some of the things I&#8217;ve taught him to friends or other people.  </p>
<p>I really do think kids listen to their parents more than they do to things they learn at school.  Just keep teaching her what you know about healthy eating and I think it&#8217;ll get through.</p>
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		<title>By: chanelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>chanelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was talking to my friend last night- on our way home from yoga- about food. She was worried about fat and not getting enough exercise and I mentioned that some science doesn&#039;t back that up. I told her a little (very little) about what I&#039;d read in Good calories, bad calories by Gary Taubes, and she looked at me like I was crazy. I mention this here because what you and I, and all the rest of us real foodies believe is so not the mainstream. You can&#039;t convince everyone. It would probably be useless for example, to go tell the school how you feel. But your kids will get it. I feed my kids information all the time while we&#039;re eating, even though they&#039;re young. I&#039;ll say, &quot;this egg came from a happy chicken that lives outside and gets to see the sun and eat bugs. And that makes the egg healthier for us. It has more omega-3 fats and we need those for our bodies to be healthy.&quot;  You are surely teaching your kids the same kind of things, and if all of your good information doesn&#039;t win your kids over at first, the delicious smell of bacon surely will!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was talking to my friend last night- on our way home from yoga- about food. She was worried about fat and not getting enough exercise and I mentioned that some science doesn&#8217;t back that up. I told her a little (very little) about what I&#8217;d read in Good calories, bad calories by Gary Taubes, and she looked at me like I was crazy. I mention this here because what you and I, and all the rest of us real foodies believe is so not the mainstream. You can&#8217;t convince everyone. It would probably be useless for example, to go tell the school how you feel. But your kids will get it. I feed my kids information all the time while we&#8217;re eating, even though they&#8217;re young. I&#8217;ll say, &#8220;this egg came from a happy chicken that lives outside and gets to see the sun and eat bugs. And that makes the egg healthier for us. It has more omega-3 fats and we need those for our bodies to be healthy.&#8221;  You are surely teaching your kids the same kind of things, and if all of your good information doesn&#8217;t win your kids over at first, the delicious smell of bacon surely will!</p>
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